i always thought the smiths and morrissey had a bigger fan base. i guess most people have bootleg versions of their albums.

You guys can't frickin gather some pennies together to buy a frickin CD from Moz. Moz without a platinum album is pathetic!

i am just saying, that is quite a big drop.

now that moz is not on tour, to start buying up his albums to increase some of those numbers

...between him and his former band in America over a decade and a half???

He really does think he's a bigger star than he really is.

Please remember that those figures are the Soundscan era calculation figures and do not reflect the total amount of records sold. They only take in what was sold during and/or after 1992

An example:

The Smiths,

STRANGEWAYS HERE WE COME
LOUDER THAN BOMBS
THE QUEEN IS DEAD

All the above titles are GOLD records in the US, which means they have sold 500,000 copies or more. All 3 records were awared GOLD status on 9-19-1990, before the soundscan era.

As I understand it, the post-1992 figures as posted above should be added to those with pre-1992 GOLD record status to give a better idea of the actual sales.

An example:

Louder Than Bombs
    500,000 - Pre-1992 Gold Status
+412,444 - Post-1992 Soundscan Figure
_________
=912,444 - Total Sales

It should be noted also that many of the Smiths records from the 1980s did not reach GOLD status but the figures above as stated are what was tabulated Post-1992 and do not factor in what the record may have sold in its original year of release before 1992.

Another example,

"The Smiths" sold 130,076 after 1992, but when it was first released it may have sold 200,000 in that year and is not included in the numbers from Soundscan. The additional sales would dramatically raise the overall sales figure of that one record.

What would be helpful is a listing of TOTAL USA record sales that includes both Pre & Post 1992 sales numbers.

Why the Best...1 sells more than a double of Best...2?? Any thoughts??

this equals a moz/smiths record sale roughly every two seconds since 1992. not too shabby.

Milan watch it next week
We're in the mood for dancing over 2 0

Can anyone give an educated guess then as to how many albums (roughly) Morrissey has sold worldwide, with and without the Smiths?

Can I safely say maybe 15 million?

I hate those 'Best' compilations. Moz had nothing to do with either the artwork or track selection and it shows.

Record sales don't mean much unless you measure quality or talent by them. I'm rather glad to hear a singer or artist I like hasn't blown up massivly with sales; keeps it an interesting and semi-private little something of your own that you know your stupid friends know nothing about.

Also we all know that generally what sits at the top of the charts for weeks and weeks is rubbish and was most likly tailored to do just that -sell loads of records. I'd sooner have a real record that was made just as the artist wanted it than one that was made just for me to pay for it.

Don't you think that the fans on here treasure their Smiths & Morrissey records, no matter how few that might be, more than the millions who bought the last Britney Spears record?

Again, it isn't the quantity but rather the Q-----Y ....Come on, you know the letters!

numbers of sold material in the USA

dunno what to say, but not even a million seller
album

I bought 'Maladjusted' at least five times in a number of formats. I demand a recount.

I don't see any mention of that album......

Morrissey must manage his money well because he isn't making much from record sales.

A good chance here for the moaners to complain he hasn't sold enough records...The Haters to slag him as he hasn't sold enough records, The 'I like to be different types' to be happy that he's not as commercial as Britney, hence they must be super cool to be into him when their friends aren't etc etc...
I really don't care how many records he's sold. I buy them because i like them. And i wouldn't mind having sold as many. U2 have sold billions, and i have never bought one. What does it all mean? Let's leave sales figures to the record companies shall we...

I think more should be made of the interesting fact that The Smiths sold more records in the US in 2007 than Morrissey, despite the man touring his nuts off in the States last year whilst promoting ROTT. The Smiths split more than 20 years ago, but their music remain more relevant today than anything new Morrissey could possibly come up with.

...he tours so much. He doesn't get any money from his CDs.

He has millions! he'll be ok!

for I am satan himself, lord of this realm and I am displeased at the vile site monitors, tseng and other people of malintent.

I am FYS, lord of this realm and king of the world.

I see you ever

I'd also like to see the iTunes figures for his solo stuff...

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MORRISSEY

* US SINGLES *
=============

        1. THE MORE YOU IGNORE ME, THE CLOSER I GET
Date: 19/03/1994 - Run: 80-72-70-64-60-52-47-47-47-*46*-55-55-82-80-96 (15 wks) UK:#8/3/1

* US ALBUMS *
============

        1. VIVA HATE
Date: 09/04/1988 - Run: 95-59-49-*48*-48-53-58-67-70-69-82-76-88-93-101-14 5-153-165-176-197 (20 wks) UK:#1/20/2/1

        2. BONA DRAG
Date: 24/11/1990 - Run: 87-*59*-76-84-96-96- (6 wsf)
05/01/1991: 116-121-116-118-122-115-126-146-167-184 (16 wks) UK:#9/4/1

        3. KILL UNCLE
Date: 23/03/1991 - Run: 73-*52*-57-60-69-86-98-129-140 (9 wks)
Re #01: 06/07/1991 197 (1 wk)
Total # of weeks: 10-9c (UK:#8/4/1)

        4. YOUR ARSENAL
Date: 15/08/1992 - Run: *21*-41-53-63-74-75-88-104-125-150-157-159-181-0-0 -0-188 (14-13c wks) UK:#4/5/1

        5. VAUXHALL & I
Date: 09/04/1994 - Run: *18*-41-42-57-60-75-99-119-141-169 (10 wks) UK:#1/5/2/1

        6. WORLD OF MORRISSEY
Date: 11/03/1995 - Run: *134* (1 wk)

        7. SOUTHPAW GRAMMAR
Date: 30/09/1995 - Run: *66*-123 (2 wks) UK:#4/3/1

        8. MALADJUSTED
Date: 30/08/1997 - Run: *61*-116-157 (3 wks) UK:#8/3/1

        9. YOU ARE THE QUARRY
Date: 05/06/2004 - Run: *11*-45-67-90-135-172 (6 wks) UK:#2/18/2

    10. LIVE AT EARLS COURT
Date: 16/04/2005 - Run: *122* (1 wk) UK:#18/2

THE SMITHS

* US ALBUMS *
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        1. THE SMITHS
Date: 05/05/1984 - Run: 190-185-166-161-155-*150*-150-173-199-193-191 (11 wks) UK:#2/37/4

        2. MEAT IS MURDER
Date: 02/03/1985 - Run: 194-157-145-140-134-130-124-121-117-112-*110*-110- 136-134-130-140-139-136-128-121-121-139-150-147-16 0-162-168-161-155-176-178-183 (32 wks) UK:#1/15/3/1

        3. THE QUEEN IS DEAD
Date: 19/07/1986 - Run: 106-86-73-71-71-*70*-77-81-87-74-74-91-100-93-107- 111-122-133-134-150-169-171-187-182- (24 wsf)
03/01/1987: 182-183-172-161-161-162-156-163-169-183-181-198-19 5 (37 wks) UK:#2/26/2

        4. LOUDER THAN BOMBS
Date: 25/04/1987 - Run: 78-64-*62*-62-74-75-85-97-102-122-118-118-133-146- 135-161-161-162-176-200-199-189-178-178-196 (25 wks) UK:#38/7

        5. STRANGEWAYS, HERE WE COME
Date: 10/10/1987 - Run: 131-67-59-*55*-55-57-60-67-80-84-106-119- (12 wsf)
02/01/1988: 119-109-100-84-84-92-102-109-123-139-153-173-191-1 80-199 (27 wks) UK:#2/21/3

        6. RANK
Date: 01/10/1988 - Run: 124-*77*-77-84-106-135-164-163 (8 wks) UK:#2/7/1

        7. BEST...I
Date: 17/10/1992 - Run: *139*-152-181 (3 wks) UK:#1/9/4/1

Bear in mind, that the gold records they received are based on *shipments*, not sales. But it looks like they're due for some platinum updates.

Record companies rarely overcertify, most stuff is undercertified because they don't bother/forget to update the sales. Nowadays with increasingly lower album sales those old Smiths sales seem like blockbusters and the 80s was the British invasion anyway.